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Valley
07-22-2006, 05:36 PM
Kingston's Market Square redevelopment has recently been unveiled. But its a largely a disappointing and costly exercise in urban design.

Many of the small details do not seem to fit or enhance the original 19th century architecture of City Hall and the square:

# The single largest defining feature on the Square seems to be the Zamboni hut which has appeared as an ill fitting accretion to City Hall
# Street lighting seems to be have been pulled from Disneyland's Main Street in Yesteryear
# Bland concrete bollards at some street corners seem to serve no particular purpose
# Coloured concrete paving stones and granite curbs seem to poorly complement the original limestone grandeur of City Hall
# Benches seem to be non-existent
# There is little in the way of landscaping, for example, a few large trees at the perimeter of the Square would help to give it more definition

Overall it seems that little or no consideration was given to design detailing which directly reflects Kingston's built heritage

See the City of Kingston description of the Market Square development at the following location: http://www.cityofkingston.ca/business/marketsquare/

For an example of how this sensitive urban design issue might have been handled, see the review below on the recently revamped Princes' Gate area at Toronto's Canadian National Exhibition eastern enntrance (photos attached):

The new Princes' Gates
This `project of small gestures' is a big hit, writes

Christopher Hume
Toronto Star July 20, 2006

The Princes' Gates haven't moved, but suddenly it's as if they were somewhere different.

With yesterday's unveiling of a $1 million improvement program, the landmark entrance to Exhibition Place is once again part of the city and a space for people, rather than a monument isolated by the automobile.

Above all, however, the project is a testament to the power of the detail — in this case, nothing more than trees, bollards, benches, lighting and paving. One could walk past the new piazza and not notice what's new, only that it is new.

Rarely has Toronto seen a civic transformation scheme as subtle as this. And yet it succeeds, quite beautifully. And the gates themselves, a handsome neo-classical structure opened in 1927, have never looked better.

Designed by Sering + Sistema Duemila of Milan and Toronto's MBTW Group, the square is as much a celebration of the twinning of the two cities as it is an act of urban reclamation.

The driving force was Deputy Mayor Joe Pantalone and the Italian Chamber of Commerce, who were intent on bringing a taste of Milanese sophistication to the city.

"The challenge was taking a no man's land and giving it life," says Italian architect Federico Pella. "It cannot be too spectacular; that would have killed the gates. The subject here is the gates. This is a project of small gestures."

The most striking of these gestures are rectangular benches made of black Italian marble and light grey Canadian granite. On each, the name of a province and an image of its provincial tree are engraved. Simple and elegant, durable and practical, they express the essence of the project.

So, too, do the removable stainless steel bollards that serve as vehicular barriers. Though they couldn't be more basic, they are clean, crisp and illustrative of the unrealized (in Toronto) aesthetic potential of even the most unsung elements of the civic infrastructure.

Then there's the paving, arranged in patterns, checkerboard and stripes, of light and dark, with various mottos inscribed; though memorable in its own right, what's most remarkable is that it replaces asphalt, which made the place look more like a parking lot than the grand entrance to the country's oldest exhibition.

The most designerly features are eight X-shaped light fixtures that run along Strachan Ave. Ground lighting will also have a big role in the square. As for Strachan, it has been reduced from four lanes to three, bicycle lanes added and utility poles buried. This helps enormously to lessen the sense that the gates and the piazza are marooned in a sea of car-filled highways.

East of Strachan, trees have been planted. They still have years to go before they become a significant element, but they're in the ground.

It's worth keeping in mind that the area around the new square is quickly being transformed into a highrise neighbourhood. Condo towers are under construction in almost every direction; this means that the Princes' Gates will mark the entrance to the new residential enclave almost as much as they do the Ex.

"I think it's brilliant," said the clearly elated mayor of Toronto, David Miller. "I love it."

As Miller also observed, the scheme could serve as a model for hundreds of similar small-scale projects throughout the city. The point is that it was done *****ly and modestly; indeed, much of the stuff it involves is normally handled by the public works department. In other words, if the city brought the same level of attention to the work it does routinely — building sidewalks, planting trees, installing benches — we could transform Toronto, bit by bit, detail by detail.

At the same time, it should be noted that there are other aspects of the Princes' Gates project — including a row of lighting columns along Lake Shore Blvd. W. and a "viewing hill" east of Strachan — that have yet to be done. The changes unveiled yesterday are the first step in an ambitious strategy aimed at remaking the entire precinct.

As Pantalone said, "We have to beg, borrow and steal to do this kind of thing. I call it well-planned incrementalism."

He refused to be specific about when or even if the second phase would be built. In the poor-little-rich burg that is Toronto, we have money to spend on everything but the city.

Click the thumbnail below for the 2002 design concept for Market Square:

Lydia
07-23-2006, 07:34 PM
Valley, I agree fully with you on this one. Isn't it interesting how the Managers in charge of these projects have NOT delivered our TAX money's worth.

Leads me to think exactly HOW was the tax dollars really spent. I would love to see an itemized listing of all AND I MEAN ALLLLL expenses.

rwood
07-23-2006, 07:50 PM
I was surprised at the criticism of a major, progressive development in the heart of our City, when the project is only nearing the end of Phase II (of three phases). Street furniture, the fountain, and other detailing are still to come. Other criticisms seem to be more a matter of taste -- most people I've heard comment are blown away by the look of the pavers and curbstones and can't wait for Phase II to be fully complete. And when the farmers are on the market (or the antique market or a concert), I think it looks great.

My 2 cents.

Lydia
07-23-2006, 07:59 PM
Thanks for letting us know that there are other phases that will make us more delighted with our new Market Square.

I still ask the question, "Is it worth it?" Is there an itemized list of ALL costs involved?

When all is said and done all all phases are completed. Will it truly be worth it? As it stands at this point I agree with Valley. Maybe when Market Square is completely finished I might agree with you. Only time will tell and I for one am willing to be objective about it even thought I don't sound like it at this point and time.

I am happy however that you are delighted so far and I hope you prove us incorrect.

Emerald
07-24-2006, 10:42 AM
I hope the pavers have a longer life-span than the ones on Princess? Is there something different about them R.Wood? Winter happens. Love the look - think the Zamboni hut is a bad, design choice.

posting
04-28-2007, 05:40 PM
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Dogma
05-02-2007, 01:46 PM
I fully agree farmers markets add to the quality of life of citizens and local micro enterprises, farms, shops, people etc.

BUT, I do not agree with the revitalization of market square at this time.

It has not been proven as a priority (or best practices) in terms of either:

1) necessary downtown infastructure
2) economic development (local and regional)
3) quality of life for the "majority" of our community
4) efficencies (i.e design/build) investment of tax payers monies
5) or ROI return on investment

This project should never have started until 3-5 years down the road. (It is not a priority)

With regards to design, layout and features:

I know it will be fine...

The new building for the ice machine etc. looks just fine and does blend with existing 19th century building as well as any. The HVAC (cooling system) on top is the only issue..but because of mechanics, code it needs relatively open.

If anything the "overhead door" on the building is the only stark visual presents.

But, unless you have "barn doors" or what this countries products can provide as a secure industrial (public space) door without ANY custom design door (breaking the budget)

We will need to live with it and put the monies against more obvious needs.

But, taste and experience to supply such dreams can be two very different things.

Dogma
05-15-2007, 09:13 AM
http://www.thewhig.com/npimages/newsphotos/file515200770141AM.jpg
The Market Square revitalization project is expected to be finished by the end of the summer.


Photo: Mark Bergin

Market under budget, short on donations; City pledges openness when it sells remaining naming rights

Jordan Press
Local News - Tuesday, May 15, 2007 @ 00:00

One of the city's biggest projects will come in under budget, staff say, but the money saved may have to help pay for a possible million-dollar shortfall in fundraising.

In a report, city staff write that the revitalization of Market Square will come in about $370,000 under the approved budget of $6.2 million. The report recommends the city set aside the money "to offset any fundraising deficiency that may occur."

Currently, staff say, donations - targeted in the budget to reach $3.65 million - are short by $1.2 million.

"The unrealized donation budget of over $1.2 [million] is an aggressive one that carries considerable risk of not being attained as the project nears completion," staff write in a report to council this week.

When asked how the city would pay for the project with the current shortfall, public works commissioner Mark Segsworth said "we're going to raise money in the community. That's how we're going to do it.

"Let's call it the way it is. This project has been dogged with challenges for the last 30 years," Segsworth said.

"We're so close. The reality is we're going to be sitting here in the fall with this magnificent, revitalized square."

When the square is finished - it is expected to be completed by the end of the summer - the city will have completed three years of work at a total cost of $6. 2 million.

The report shows the fundraising office at Queen's University, which helped solicit donations, will receive $100,000 for its work.

The fundraising committee for the project has said repeatedly the city was short about $800,000 in donations.

However, if the $370,000 were transferred to the donation part of the budget, as the report suggests, the fundraising shortfall would still be about $888,000. When asked about the discrepancy, Segsworth said the shortfall figure of $800,000 was released after they realized the project would come in under budget. He said that figure included the transfer of the extra funds to help cover the shortfall.

"Nothing is nailed down to the penny, but we need $800,000 or so to finish the project as originally envisioned," he said.

Under the plan for the square, everything will be sold for naming rights. From the fountain to the courtyards to the gazebo on the northwest corner of the square, every part will be auctioned off to the highest donor.

"Everything has a price, nothing has value. That's not the Kingston I represent," said Councillor Bill Glover. "We're auctioning off the square [to] the highest bidder for sale and let's not be confused by the language it's wrapped up in."

There will be a process put into place to avoid another naming-rights controversy. After the city decided to rename the square after the Springer family, which donated $1 million to the project, a group of citizens took the city to court over the matter. The court ruled in favour of the city.

The city's current policy states that any discussion about any naming rights should occur behind closed doors, known as in-camera talks.

"What is being recommended in this report is that there will be no in-camera discussion," the report says.

Staff recommend councillors receive confidential notes about those interested in buying naming rights to assess the merit of each bid. If a councillor has an objection, they can make it known anonymously and staff would pass it on to the donor. The donor could either withdraw or continue with their bid knowing council would debate the issue in front of the public.

"In this manner, council can consider the naming opportunity without subjecting the donor to public embarrassment, should council have objections to the naming," staff write.

Fundraiser George Hood said it will be up to individual donors if they want to go through the process.

"Under the circumstances, that's probably the best we can do," he said.

Councillor Rob Matheson said he believed the process was "a huge step forward.

"It should work well. At least it will be open."

Glover said the secretive part of the process could lead to false accusations. If there is a problem with a potential name, there should be a discussion about it, he said.

"There's got to be a more open, a more exhaustive opportunity for discussion," he said.

If the city decides to use the money leftover from the budget, it would be using money set aside from one of its reserve funds, which is one of the city's savings account.

"The truth of the matter is ... it's a fancy way of saying the taxpayer's paying for it," said Councillor Mark Gerretsen, who added he'd like to see the money raised.

"Can we leave the project half-completed? No. I think we have to complete it," Gerretsen said. jpress@thewhig.com (jpress@thewhig.com)

Market Square figures

Total Budget: $6.2 million.

Estimated cost: $5.8 million.

Surplus: $368,600.

Fundraising goal: $3.65 million.

Amount left to raise: $1.2 million.

Amount Queen's University receives for helping with the fundraising: $100,000.

Source: City of Kingston. The full report is available online at www.cityofkingston.ca/pdf/council/agenda/2007/A12_Rpt52.pdf (http://www.cityofkingston.ca/pdf/council/agenda/2007/A12_Rpt52.pdf)

Lydia
05-18-2007, 09:39 PM
The city staffers who recommend that the naming rights be kept out of the public view obviously have not learned a darn thing. Do they really need more lawsuits? Can these staffers be bought?

It only shows that these decisions makers have utter contempt for the residents in this city. Thank God for this present Council who informed those staffers that the councillors do NOT SUPPORT SUCH TACTICS.

Our Councillors want open and transparent discussions and support the idea of using naming rights for people who deserve recognition. People who have contributed more than just finances. People who make Kingston a place to be proud off. People who can globally showcase Kingston.

So there you have it folks, Certain Staffers want naming rights reserved for people who can BUY it and we have fantastic councillors who want to HONOR people by using naming rights on our important locations.

Our Councillors want to hear from you. "What places, homes, buildings, do you believe should be honoured and that we would want to have named or renamed?"