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04-23-2006, 10:05 PM
Click here (http://www.kingstonelectors.ca/article.php?id=373) to see an article on the City of Kingston Planning Committee Meeting Notes, 2006-04-20

Notes from the April 20, 2006 meeting of the Planning Committee.

A number of significant projects and issues, including the new multiplex planning approvals, were reviewed at the meeting:

The April 20, 2006 meeting of the City of Kingston Planning Committee dealt with several major developments, the city’s proposed multiplex community centre, and a few more “local” land use change applications. Interesting issues arose from some of the applications.



Full details of all applications may be found at http://www.cityofkingston.ca/cityhall/committees/planning/agendas.asp


Multiplex Planning

1350 Gardiner’s Road, City of Kingston proposed multiplex community centre public meeting The city itself is the applicant seeking amendments to its zoning bylaws to permit a multiplex centre and maintenance of fewer parking spaces than current zoning bylaws require. Considerable public comment arose from this proposal, primarily focusing on locating this recreational facility in the city’s serviced industrial park at the margins of the city’s urbanized area, and additionally arguing that locating the facility at 1350 Gardiner’s Road encourages urban sprawl. After closure of the public meeting, staff and the chair of the Planning Committee both advised that “the location decision has already been made, by City Council” and it is not open to discussion. Staff and the chair suggested that Planning Committee discussion should be limited to “land use issues.” One citizen had argued that the staff report should have addressed issues such as that the proposed location was inconsistent with provincial policy and the city’s transportation master plan, and did not address legislative obligations related to urban sprawl. The city commissioner sharply rebutted this citizen, advising that the “political decision” re location had already been made, so staff would not reasonably comment on the location. Readers may argue that location is indeed a land use issue. Where a development applicant is the city itself, it is difficult for municipal staff to maintain a balance between the needs of their own employer (the applicant) and the urban planning requirements imposed through their professional training, provincial and city policy, and legislation. Where a city makes a “political decision” with important land use planning implications, this political decision appears to supersede normal planning processes. Planning Committee approved the city’s application.

Lydia
04-30-2006, 02:59 PM
Members of the CAG group have the following concerns:
1) the City is proceeding with the project on the basis of the ‘draft business plan’ which was to be revised, updated and corrected
2) the requested $ amounts associated with the pool business plan is 100% greater than the entire dMA Consulting Arena Capacity Study (which in scope was a huge undertaking compared to one indoor and one outdoor pool and only cost $50K for 2 reports, surveys and engineering assessment of 7 ice pads) and
3) that the YMCA partnership opportunity will fall by the wayside in a matter of weeks and will not survive this process.

If anything, they have their Phases in directly the opposite order.

Maybe we should be concerned as well. There is a MultiPlex Steering Committee Meeting Agenda for Tomorrow, May 1 RideauCrest Center, 6:30PM

Maybe we can all ask about these concerned when we are at that meeting.

Exhibitionist
05-04-2006, 12:43 PM
West-end multiplex moves ahead

The Whig-Standard
Local News - Thursday, May 04, 2006 @ 07:00

Plans to build a four-icepad community centre in the west end vaulted several hurdles in the span of a few days this week.

City politicians endorsed zoning changes that are required to permit the construction of arenas on the preferred site, a 10-hectare, vacant industrial property on Fortune Crescent.

The land is owned by the city.

Tuesday night, councillors approved the zoning amendments that were approved last month by the city’s planning committee.

Several councillors again raised concern about the west-end location, which is in a city industrial park south of Highway 401. But the majority of councillors endorse the choice.

“The site’s not perfect for me, but it will work,” Councillor Leonore Foster said.

City staff also got approval this week from the political committee guiding the project to issue refined bid proposals to five private groups that want the contract to design and build the facility.

The project is expected to cost more than $24 million.

The refinements mean that city staff and consultants will continue to study whether a pool can be built at the complex, but it will not be part of the initial construction.

“Not in Phase 1,” said Councillor Kevin George, who chairs the committee. “We made that clear.”

City staff got approval to spend another $100,000 to develop a business plan for a pool and to pay for other costs related to studying the idea.

The city is negotiating a possible partnership with the YMCA on a pool.

A proposal for one Olympic-sized icepad also was dropped from the package. Instead, the complex will feature four National Hockey League-size ice surfaces. One will have 750 spectator seats. The other three will have 300 seats each.

The proposal is still based on the notion that the city must close some existing ice surfaces to ensure a steady revenue stream for the new complex.

For this reason, city staff will draft a “repurposing strategy” and present it to councillors by the beginning of June.

Staff previously suggested closing the Wally Elmer, Harold Harvey and Cook Brothers rinks in the city once the new community centre opens.

Public outcry prompted politicians to reconsider the plan. Some or all of the rinks could be kept open, or kept open at least to serve community purposes other than as ice surfaces.

Lydia
05-04-2006, 02:10 PM
Thank you *************, You are RIGHT I obviously am wrong. Enjoy

Exhibitionist
05-05-2006, 10:41 AM
Included is a recent article from the Whig Standard in this thread.

Take what you wish from it.

Lydia
05-05-2006, 11:44 AM
*************, I am truly thanking you for putting that article on here.

When I said you are correct and I am wrong, I mean that. This forum is lucky to have you because at least you say things the way you see them. I don't like what is being said however, i do respect you saying things the way you see them.

My problem is that I TRUST people who are in higher positions and I always get burned. When I decided to get involved, i wanted to present both the positive and negative side of things and hoped that the powers that be would also listen to the PEOPLE.

I just will never understand why the powers that be decided to ram things up my backside, create a public forum so that they don't get critized for not being public, and total do what they intended even thought they were told over and over and over that their original plan IS not what their elected advisors have told them that the public wanted. Am I upset. HELL YES. Not at you personally but at the situation. So again Thank you you are obviously correct and I am obviously incorrect.

Exhibitionist
05-05-2006, 12:49 PM
I know little to nothing about the "Multiplex".

The article submitted is purely a (copy and paste) from this past weeks Whig Standard.

Take what you or others wish from it.